Comments on: Is C.J. Miles the key to the Jazz season? http://saltcityhoops.com/is-c-j-miles-the-key-to-the-jazz-season/ The ESPN TrueHoop Utah Jazz Site Sun, 21 Sep 2014 17:32:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: stargazer http://saltcityhoops.com/is-c-j-miles-the-key-to-the-jazz-season/#comment-491 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 03:54:57 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3269#comment-491 Thanks for the response. Long term, Bell is a better shooter. Probably because he has a better shot with less arm motion than Miles. Perhaps I’m missing the point of your article because it makes no sense to me to say Miles is the key to anything. The +/- stats have no meaning. It’s not a real model of anything. Too many unknown variables. It’s like predicting the weather with your finger in the air. Remember, Bell plays against the other teams starters. He works hard, by comparison to Miles, with picks, passes, rebounding and defense. But forget Bell, the problem I have with Miles is he seems to have no basketball IQ and is fundamentally weak. If Miles is the key to the Jazz success, then you must be defining success as something pretty low.

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By: Kevin Malphurs http://saltcityhoops.com/is-c-j-miles-the-key-to-the-jazz-season/#comment-490 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 23:50:06 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3269#comment-490 First off the stats I used were before the Dallas game. However, I confused as to what stats I used that were wrong. I write that Bell is a better shooter, and I also write that “neither are particularly good shooters.” The stats I use are that they are both 32-33% from three and less than 42% from the field. After the Dallas game below are the shooting stats for both players;

Bell: 41% (FG), 32% (3 point) and 92% (free throw)
Miles: 39.7% (FG), 32% (3 point) and 83% (free throw)

Again I state that neither player are really great shooters. What specific stats do you think I was wrong on? I am very curious since I spend plenty of time of looking at stats and would be concerned if I misquoted one.

Also, I would ask that you read the article again because I think you missed the point. I wasn’t trying to say that C.J. Miles is a great player or even an above average player. All I was trying to do was point out the difference between Miles and Bell and try (repeat try) to come up with a reason the Jazz +/- statistics are so much better with Miles on the court as opposed to Bell. The theories might be wrong and your comments on Bell vs. Miles might be 100% true.

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By: stargazer http://saltcityhoops.com/is-c-j-miles-the-key-to-the-jazz-season/#comment-489 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:35:53 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3269#comment-489 Your stats are wrong. Bell shoots above 40% and Miles shoots below 40%. http://www.nba.com/jazz/stats/

Both are are in the low 30’s shooting threes. Bell is a far better defender. This article makes no sense. Miles is inconsistent at shooting to be kind, lazy, can’t dribble under pressure, high turn over rate, doesn’t rebound and plays defense with his hands.

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By: C.J. Miles http://saltcityhoops.com/is-c-j-miles-the-key-to-the-jazz-season/#comment-488 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 21:35:49 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3269#comment-488 Kevin,

Ignore this Troutclown. He came stalkin’ my ass on FB and me and my momz hadz to boot him off. Word is he’s an insurance salesman but I doubt he’s very successful. He seems to spend more time tryin to troll me than make a buck and support his kids and tasty wife.

CJ

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By: TroutBum http://saltcityhoops.com/is-c-j-miles-the-key-to-the-jazz-season/#comment-487 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 20:26:56 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3269#comment-487 Kevin –

Alright, I dig it. I must say that when the Jazz signed Bell, my heart died a little. When I saw how long we signed him for, it fell into my anal cavity. Having Bell play over Miles is like picking Lung Cancer over AIDS. Lose/Lose.

As for The Great White whatever he is, I would rather see Haward getting the minutes over one of those two. I loath watching our first round pick rot on the bench.

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By: Chris Kirkham http://saltcityhoops.com/is-c-j-miles-the-key-to-the-jazz-season/#comment-486 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:19:31 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3269#comment-486 I think that CJ Miles performance is key to getting ahead in this season. Though honestly, the key to any championship team is depth. I think that CJ is starting to get it, and comparing the regular season this year to the regular season of last year, I think that there is an incredible difference. Let’s hope that he can stay healthy and motivated and energized through the season and into the playoffs.

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By: Kevin Malphurs http://saltcityhoops.com/is-c-j-miles-the-key-to-the-jazz-season/#comment-485 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:15:11 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3269#comment-485 Just for clarification I don’t think Miles is good if you define good as being above average. I write about how shooting guard “isn’t a team strenght” and how Miles is below average. I tried to make it clear that while Miles isn’t good (and I agree with some of your critque on his abilities) he is better than the alternatives of Bell or Hayward. I would love for the Jazz to have a better shooting guard, but if the team is going to stay the same I think Miles gives them the best chance of winning.

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By: TroutBum http://saltcityhoops.com/is-c-j-miles-the-key-to-the-jazz-season/#comment-484 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:46:53 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3269#comment-484 Question: Do you watch the games, or go strictly by stats and +/-?

Don’t bother answering, because it’s obvious that you don’t watch. The Jazz haven’t had a more lazy, inconsistent, chucking, cry baby titsy mouse since Carlos Arroyo. Miles doesn’t hustle, box out, fill the lanes, pass, and seldom penetrates — and when he does, it’s usually a turnover.

Is he the best we’ve got on the second unit? Gods, I hope not — but that doesn’t mean he’s good, or even in the same universe as good. Put me on a girls Jr. Jazz team, and I could dominate. Ya savvy? The C.J. Miles experiment needs to come to an end. 5 years after it started, it’s clear to anyone who actually knows basketball that he is not good enough, doesn’t have the drive or passion to get better, and will always be a chucker. He’d fit great on a Mike D’Antoni team.

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