NBA Forever

Spencer Hall —  December 26, 2011 — Leave a comment

The NBA made a glorious return to action on Sunday and kicked things off with what some people are calling the greatest commercial ever. I’ve already watched it 75 million times and I’m not showing signs of stopping. Every scene is spectacular, but I especially loved the Nets-era Deron Williams taking on John Stockton. There’s also a nice Karl Malone sighting, as well as Steve Nash with Pete Maravich.

It’s a beautifully reconciliatory gift to the players after the acrimonious lockout. These are the kinds of projects that turn players into legends and is a very clear reminder to the players to be very, very grateful for the myth-making PR machine the league provides.

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Post Scrimmage Meet-up

Spencer Hall —  December 16, 2011 — Leave a comment

Join us after the open scrimmage on Saturday night for an informal meet-up at Red Rock around the corner from the arena (254 South 200 West). Nothing planned, just a fun spot for everybody to hang out and get some food and talk about the Jazz on a Saturday night.

Consider yourself invited.

SALT LAKE CITY (December 13, 2011) – Jazz fans will have their first opportunity to get a glimpse of the 2011-12 squad when the team holds its annual intrasquad scrimmage on Saturday, December 17 at 7 p.m. MT at EnergySolutions Arena. The event is free of charge and open to the public, and tickets are not required for admission. Doors will open at 6 p.m.

Rod Zundel explains the defensive changes.

Much is being made of coach Ty Corbin’s decision to modify the Utah Jazz defensive philosophy. The SLTrib breaks it down here. You can watch KSL’s Rod Zundel diagram the basics here. Jerry Sloan’s teams were coached to force the player with the ball to the middle, but now the team will attempt to force the ball to the baseline.

Here’s a nice explanation from @HoopsU:

By forcing baseline, the low post ballside can help stop penetration. The weakside low post can then rotate over to cover the offensive player in the ball side post. The top guard can rotate over ballside if need be to cover a possible kick back to the ball side wing. The weak side defensive guard can rotate into the lane to cover a high post flash. If defended and executed properly, the only open offensive player is on the weakside wing. The only pass available to get it over there is askip pass. By the time the skip pass reaches its target, the defender will be able to recover and closeout in plenty of time or possibly even intercept it.

The one and only time I may decide to force middle is if I have a phenomenal shot blocker. Funneling the offense to a shut down shot blocker may be of benefit to forcing bad shots and bad decisions. How often, however, do we have that kind of player?

To my knowledge, the only teams in the NBA that forced the ball to the middle last year were the Jazz and the Orlando Magic. One of those teams had a dominant center.

Ross Siler likes the change:

Big fan of Ty Corbin’s change in defensive philosophy for the Jazz. It’s not so much forcing baseline as it is forcing away from the paint. Sloan insisted on forcing to the middle because he believed it was easier for other players to step up and provide defensive help.

I can understand the thinking, but it was counterintuitive to how everyone learns to play defense growing up. You force right-handed players to the left, left-handed players to the right, and you don’t let anyone drive the middle of the lane. Sloan’s defensive system encouraged giving up drives down the lane.

The Jazz might not be better than an average defensive team, but I think it’s preferable to be reacting and not thinking about everything on the defensive end, especially for such a young team.

I like the change and think it will be helpful, but as Al Jefferson says in that clip from KSL, it won’t magically solve all the team’s defensive problems. Guys still need to commit to the philosophy and help each other out. Forcing baseline can be a disaster if the ball handler can turn the corner and get to the rim.

That being said, some are treating the philosophy of forcing middle as if it were archaic or silly. Ross Siler also makes the assertion that most guys grow up learning to force to the baseline, which I don’t necessarily agree to be true. Salt City Hoops correspondent Eric Jackson played a little college hoops and had this to say:

I’ve never had a coach that wanted us to force baseline, but I also know what it does to the D if a guy gets to the paint on the drive. You’ve got to have great help defense to force middle, and I think the Jazz have the right big men to do it. They move well and are smart.

In the NBA, with no hand checking and superfast, scoring point guards who can get in the lane, it’s usually too dangerous to force middle. The options for an offense are more limited on the baseline and it’s harder to finish at the rim in the NBA. Forcing baseline takes away some of their options.

The coaches at my alma mater Provo High preach a switching/help man-to-man defense that is based on the philosophy to never give up the baseline and that all your help is in the middle. Players are taught to get a foot on the baseline and never give it up, like the opposite of Al Pacino’s “Inch Speech.”

Jerry Sloans’s team defense philosophy was based on his ideas of rugged individualism and the idea that every player should take responsibility for stopping his man. Unfortunately, the current state of the NBA makes it nearly impossible for anyone to keep the D.Roses of the world from getting in the paint at will.

I’m looking forward to seeing a new look from the Jazz, but any defensive success will still require commitment and trust. Hopefully the days of olé defense are in the past.

Update: Ross weighed in on Twitter with an important addendum:

I hate the description of forcing baseline. Nobody wants to give up baseline drives. It’s forcing away from the paint. The angles are just so much better forcing away from the paint.

It’s true. “Forcing baseline” shouldn’t be mistaken for “giving up the baseline.”

We kick off the 2011-12 season with some discussion about the Chris Paul / Lakers fiasco, Jazz media day, and the upcoming season. Forgive the poor audio quality — we bypassed the studio and went straight to the homebrew/Skype solution.

Enjoy, and let us know your thoughts.

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Poking the Hornet’s Nest

Jeff Lind —  December 9, 2011 — 4 Comments

I’ve been sitting here for a few hours trying to find the right words to express what I’m feeling about this Paul/Lakers/Stern hoopla. I’ve got nothing… I don’t know what to say. Instead, here’s a timeline of last night’s events as they unfolded to me:

3:58 pm: The trade was originally reported as follows (by a twitter MUST follow Adrian Wojnarowski):

I was furious. Not at the league, per se, but at the Lakers… here they were pulling off another blockbuster trade, while keeping all their major pieces of a championship contender in place. Imagining the Lakers with Paul, Kobe, AND Gasol was too much. Super teams… you guys win.

At 3:58.30 pm I tweeted this:

And I meant it. The league JUST went through a lockout with a major focus on bringing parity and competitive balance to the league! This particular trade seemed to flush all of that, and let the Lakers trade three quarters for a silver dollar.

At 4:06 pm this happened:

That changed my feelings completely. Suddenly, the Lakers didn’t seem so scary. They were forced to give up Gasol and Odom (the length that REALLY killed the Jazz year after year), and they were left with Kobe (bad knees), Bynum (bad knee), and Chris Paul (no knee at all). In a compressed 66 game season, they’d be hard pressed to come out of it in one serviceable piece. I mean, sure, they’d be scary in spurts… but when you’re playing back to back to backs on those legs, you’re going to have major rotation problems.

The three team trade was supposed to go something like this:

Lakers:

  • Get: Chris Paul
  • Give: Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom
An exciting gamble for the Lakers. They get the (second) best point guard in the league, and pair him with Mamba. This gives them at least two seasons to make a run at the finals with two of the best five players in the league.

Rockets:

  • Get: Gasol, cap room for new free agent
  • Give: Luis Scola, Lamar Odom, Kevin Martin
They get one of the top centers/players in the league to replace Yao, and have a ton of cap room to get a new free agent. The Rockets are a team that have notoriously stashed assets for a moment like this, and they finally made their move.

New Orleans:

  • Get: Luis Scola, Lamar Odom, Kevin Martin
  • Give: Chris Paul
New Orleans made the most of the hand they were dealt, and turned their all star PG into a core of players they can build around. I’ll be honest, if the Jazz had pulled this trade off for D-Will (who I consider to be better than CP3), I’d have been happy.
Looking at it like that, things seemed relatively fair. I started to feel better. Sure, the thought of Chris Paul on the Lakers forced blood from my eyes, but when you see what LA had to give up to get him, it made sense. And it was finished. Done.

Then at 7:07 pm THIS HAPPENED:

Turns out the league owned Hornets (see: 29 owners and David Stern), were not impressed with this trade, and they were not going to let it happen. Owners lost it, complained to David, and Stern made the final decision to kill the trade. Unprecedented. All hell broke loose, EVERYWHERE. My twitter feed, emails, and texts blew up. Before I went to bed, I had over 50 emails in my inbox, and when I woke up I had almost 30 more waiting. I saw everything from “David Stern was right” to “David Stern has lost his mind.”

Today:
The overwhelming emotion I’ve seen is one of disappointment and confusion. People don’t understand why Stern felt like he had to move on this. Local media is furious, the National Media is gathering pitchforks, and the TrueHoop network is going nuts. NBA fans are in shock. I’ve heard educated journalists say that this is the end of David Stern. Some are even saying this is worse than the Donaghy game fixing.  I wouldn’t go that far, but the waters are certainly muddied, and here’s why:
  1. This comes across like Stern, as commissioner, killed the deal. This isn’t true. Stern killed the deal as a representative of the collective Hornets ownership (the other 29 owners). Boiled down, it would be like Gail Miller saying “no” to the Williams trade at the eleventh hour and (as an owner) it’s her right.
  2. This is the problem with the LEAGUE OWNING A TEAM. It’s idiotic. How can a collective ownership of 29 individuals be trusted to make the same choices an independent owner would in a vacuum when bajillions of dollars are on the line? It’s not possible. Not when the stakes are this high.
  3. If this doesn’t get resolved in a satisfying way, does it hang a “Fire Sale” sign around the Hornets franchise? I say yes. If this trade block stands, CP3 ain’t getting traded… ever, which means in all likelihood he’ll leave for nothing next season. If there wasn’t an argument for contraction before today, here it is… signed, sealed, & delivered. This effectively neuters the Hornets franchise.
The Commissioner’s office has defended the decision with the following:
“All decisions are made on the basis of what is in the best interests of the Hornets. In the case of the trade proposal that was made to the Hornets for Chris Paul, we decided, free from the influence of other NBA owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets uniform than by the outcome of the terms of that trade.”
Whether the decision was truly made freely from the influence of other NBA owners is debatable, and I’ll leave it to you to decide if the trade was blocked for true “basketball reasons.” Regardless, I think this trade will ultimately go through. David Stern is getting publicly crucified for his role in this, and he knows it. It’s only a matter of time before public opinion rings so loud that it deafens out his ability to lead effectively. Either he’ll step down, or fix it. I’m willing to bet that with the OUT he’s being offered with team appeals, he’ll ultimately let the trade happen. Otherwise… who knows where this will end up. As fans, we collectively got over the lockout pretty quickly, but what kind of lingering effects will this fiasco leave on the league? Time will tell.

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Here’s the press release from the Jazz for what looks to be a wild, 66-game season:

SALT LAKE CITY (December 6, 2011) – The Utah Jazz announced today the team’s 2011-12 regular season schedule. The Jazz will tip off the 2011-12 campaign at STAPLES Center against the Los Angeles Lakers on December 27. The Jazz will then stay on the road for the team’s first back-to-back of the season, traveling to Denver to play the Nuggets on December 28. Utah’s home opener comes two days later when the Jazz hosts the Philadelphia 76ers on December 30.

Utah is scheduled to appear on national television 12 times overall during the 2011-12 campaign and once on national radio. The Jazz will appear on two TNT broadcasts (12/27 at L.A. Lakers and 1/19 vs. Dallas), six ESPN broadcasts (2/1 vs. L.A. Clippers, 2/10 vs. Oklahoma City, 2/12 at Memphis, 3/14 at Phoenix, 3/23 vs. Denver and 4/21 vs. Orlando), four NBA TV broadcasts (12/31 at San Antonio, 1/14 vs. New Jersey, 1/28 vs. Sacramento and 2/6 at New York) and once on ESPN Radio (1/19 vs. Dallas). The Jazz’s local television broadcast schedule will be released at a later date.

The Jazz will play all Eastern Conference teams at least once each with the exception of three Eastern Conference teams they will face twice. The three teams include the Cleveland Cavaliers, New Jersey Nets and Philadelphia 76ers. Utah will play Western Conference teams at least three times each, with the exception of six Western Conference teams they will face four times. The six teams include the Dallas Mavericks, Golden State Warriors, L.A. Lakers, Portland Trail Blazers, Sacramento Kings and San Antonio Spurs.

The opener against Los Angeles will mark the third time in Jazz franchise history that the Jazz and Lakers have faced each other in the season opener, with two games coming in Salt Lake City and one in Los Angeles. The Jazz and Lakers also met in Utah’s season opener in 1997-98, 1999-00 and 2004-05.

Utah’s month-by-month break down includes four games in December (one home, three road), 15 games in January (12 home, three road), 15 games in February (six home, nine road), 19 games in March (seven home, 12 road) and 13 games in April (eight home, five road). The schedule features 22 back-to-back sets (two – home/home, seven – away/away, seven – home/away, six – away/home), including one back-to-back-to-back (2/12-2/14 at Memphis, New Orleans and Oklahoma City). The Jazz will face three road trips of three games each and one trip of five games.

Other games of note include two home games each with Dirk Nowitzki and the World Champion Dallas Mavericks (1/19, 4/16), the Kobe Bryant-led Los Angeles Lakers (1/11, 2/4) and former Brigham Young University standout Jimmer Fredette’s Sacramento Kings (1/28, 3/30). The Eastern Conference Champion Miami Heat, featuring Dwyane Wade and LeBron James, will make its only appearance in Salt Lake City on 3/2.

Jazz single-game tickets will go on sale this Friday, December 9 at 10 a.m. MT at utahjazz.com and the EnergySolutions Arena box office. 2011-12 season ticket packages are currently available and may be purchased by calling (801) 355-DUNK or online at utahjazz.com. Preseason tickets are now on sale.

While the final t’s and i’s are respectively crossed and dotted on the new collective bargaining agreement, fans everywhere wait to partake of what has the potential to be the most bizarre free agency period in the history of the NBA. Beginning the free agency period on the same day that training camp opens could make for a very wild ride on the trade market, and without a complete understanding of the new agreement, it’s nothing short of absurd to attempt to predict how the market will behave. Nonetheless, with the help of the rest of the boys at Salt City Hoops, I’ve put together a few Jazz-related moves that I think could be, should be, and won’t be made.

Move that could be made

Let me preface this idea by saying how much I love Paul Millsap. He’s a hard worker, and has done everything the Jazz have asked of him & more. Saying that, he’s ultimately an asset… and one that Utah seems to have in spades right now. There have been multiple reports in the past about a trade that is centered around Millsap & Granger and is a rumor that I believe has some legs. This move would most likely cost the Jazz the first round draft pick Utah acquired from Golden State rather than C.J. Miles, but this was the best picture I could paint on ESPN’s draft machine. Paul Millsap is a very nice player, but continuing to hang on to Millsap is like getting full on deviled eggs just hours before Thanksgiving dinner is served. Derrick Favors is ready to start logging minutes, and if the Jazz are committed to developing him then the time has come to cash in on Millsap, whose stock has never been higher. Danny Granger would be a nice reward for grooming Paul over the years. Granger is a lights out shooter and a perennial scorer in this league. Adding a player that has the ability to score like he can from the perimeter will work magic for Al Jefferson’s and Derrick Favors’ ability to dominate the paint. A starting lineup of Harris, Hayward, Granger, Favors, and Jefferson gets me more excited about any current lineup coach Corbin could build around Millsap. I wish I knew what stopped KOC from pulling the trigger on this one a few months ago, but maybe the addition of another big man in Enes Kanter to add to our stockpile of bigs is enough for him to change his mind in favor of the perimeter player.

All indicators point toward Devin Harris and Al Jefferson also being shopped by Utah, but without any idea of what current market value would be for those two guys, I’ll move away from actual speculation and into a dream land of trades that I feel Utah should make.

Moves that should be made

I know Hollinger’s “Analysis” indicates this as being a losing deal for Utah, but I like what I see here. Jazz would upgrade at point guard to a younger, more dedicated PG in Raymond Felton who could lead this team to maturity and who would hopefully stick around for a while. Devin Harris and Paul Millsap seem to currently be our most valuable trade chips as I think Jefferson’s contract might be too high to qualify, so perhaps we could get another piece out of this, but this would significantly improve our backcourt without hurting us much in the front court. Starting lineup: Felton, Matthews, Hayward, Favors, and Jefferson? Better than what we have now.

Another move I would welcome;

Philly has been looking to move Iguodala for a few seasons now, and with Elton Brand as a likely amnesty target, they could be looking for a new Power Forward. Andre Igoudala would provide athleticism on the wing that the Jazz have wished for, and Jrue Holiday seems to be a nice young PG. Saying all of that, the key piece here would be Thad Young. Thad Young is currently a restricted free agent and I’d imagine Utah would need to include a draft pick of some kind to provide enough incentive to Philadelphia to let this young stud go on a sign & trade. Starting lineup: Holiday, Hayward, Igoudala, Favors, and Jefferson with Thad Young as the Jazz’ 6th man? Again, better than currently constituted.

And one more I’d love to see;

This deal makes perfect sense for all teams involved. Despite recent reports, I’m still convinced Portland is going to use their amnesty clause on Brandon Roy and has needs to add some perimeter scoring. Ben Gordon would do just that. Detroit could very well amnesty the overpaid and under-performing Charlie Villenueva, and would be forced to head back to the drawing board in finding a power forward. Enter Paul Millsap. As for Utah, Ray Felton could potentially save the day again! Felton is a young player who plays hard, is a good teammate by all accounts, and a guy I could really see the rest of the Jazz rally around. In addition to the Felton acquisition, this would allow the Jazz to acquire more assets by moving current PG Devin Harris, a player who seems a bit “too cool for school” and almost indifferent about playing in Utah with our young guys. Starting lineup: Felton, Hayward, Batum/AK, Favors, Jefferson, plus whatever players the Jazz could acquire in a Devin Harris deal, which would most likely be a starting lineup quality player.

Moves that won’t be made

Chris Paul seems adamant about joining his BFFs in New York, but unless New Orleans oddly prefers quantity over quality, New York needs to come up with something more clever than this. There’s no doubt in my mind, however, that New York could and very well may find ways to land the PG. It’s almost like the lockout didn’t even happen. The new deal hasn’t even been ratified yet and new super teams are in the works. It makes me wonder what this whole lockout was all about….Oh yeah, $$$.

This move seems to benefit all teams involved except Utah. With Okur finally back in full health and primed to have a monster season, and Jefferson just getting used to the offensive system, I doubt the Jazz would be ready to deal either one of them for just an all NBA point guard, an all star shooting guard, and a hardly proven superstar power forward. If David Kahn were somehow running the show in Utah, the Jazz may get suckered into such a tragedy, but with KOC at the helm, Jazz nation shall stand united against such ludicrous ideas. <SARCASM>

With the new CBA not expected to be officially ratified by both parties until Dec. 8th, we could be in for a wild ride of the shortest free agency period ever. I’m confident in the Jazz front office to do what’s best for our team. After all, as bad as I felt for Cleveland and Toronto last year, I’m starting to feel worse for New Orleans and Orlando for this coming season. Kudos to Kevin O’Connor for ridding us of the non-stop speculation that would inevitably surround a Utah roster that still included Deron Williams.

What do you think of our trades? Any you’d propose?

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By Todd Peterson

Though it’s already been said across the interwebs, I’ll reiterate: “Happy Christmas (War Lockout is over).” Yes, good has triumphed over evil again this Christmas season. The Grinch’s heart has grown three sizes, Scrooge has seen his visions of Christmas past, present and future; or maybe it was Kramer learning of the Festivus for the Rest of Us. Regardless of which analogy is most fitting, the bottom line remains the same: Hunter and Stern apparently Tebow’d this thing and, pending the players and owners voting yea, we are back in business.

ESPN’s Larry Coon has your definitive primer on the new deal. We’re still digesting it along with our Thanksgiving turkey, but this should keep you satiated until the new CBA is officially finalized.

Now, before we go naming our children Hunter and Stern, and while we wait to unwrap our NBA season on Christmas morning, may I add a few words of pessimism to your stocking: With little-to-no training camp, a roster full of relatively new players, a new coach, and an overly burdensome schedule, the Jazz may not be looking at this season as a gift wrapped basket of joy like the rest of us.

Furthermore, it’s still unclear how this deal will impact the small/large market relationship. Some think the formation of so-called Super Teams will continue unchecked. Others think there are some important concessions to smaller market teams. Changes in revenue sharing, salary bands, contract length, and free-agent incentives are all discussed in Larry Coon’s article.

However, even my concerns over the new deal and the upcoming season cannot dampen my enthusiasm about the start of this strange 66-game ride. I look forward to seeing how Coach Corbin develops this group of veterans and youngsters, how Jefferson performs in his new 2.0 body, if Harris can win me over and make me a believer that he’s our man. And, of course, I am overly giddy about seeing the top draft picks perform in prime time.

So may we all join together in a chorus of “Buckle Up, Booner” and give thanks for the season of basketball that is upon us.

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Things hit the proverbial fan yesterday in Jazzland when the Deseret News chose to accompany Jody Genessy’s lockout story with the slightly inflammatory headline “Could bad deal mean end to Jazz in Utah?” Not since the SL Tribune trolled their readers with the famous declaration “All Hope is Lost” have there been so many raw feelings over the way a story is presented.

First of all, SLC Dunk said everything that needs to be said in response to the story: The Jazz aren’t going anywhere. Certainly the Jazz would like the NBA lockout to be resolved in a way that would allow a small market team to compete with the LAs and New Yorks of the league. But it would take much more than a bad six-year collective bargaining agreement to move the team to sell. Despite the ominous opinion from the anonymous source in Genessy’s article, the only scenario that would push the Miller family into putting the team up for sale is abysmal performance on the court leading to complete apathy in the community and catastrophic abandonment by sponsors.

It would take something similar to the Jail Blazer debacle in Portland, combined with a continued downturn of the economy, combined with reckless player signings, as well as some kind of non-basketball event that changes the way the Miller family feels about their relationship with professional basketball. The current roster is more likely to get caught helping your grandmother cross the street than for any kind of image-killing shenanigans. The economy could certainly continue to tank, but the Jazz are in a much better financial position than many teams due to their ownership of the arena and the relatively cheap purchase price when Larry H. Miller bought the team.

Greg Miller himself even chimed in with this:

Speculation of the Jazz being sold is unfortunate & irresponsible. Thanks to unprecedented fan & sponsor support the Jazz is solid as ever.

In Genessy’s defense, the most unfortunate (and possibly irresponsible) thing going on right now is the lockout, not a collection of quotes and numbers that all point to difficult choices for the Jazz if things break badly. Personally, I don’t think the Millers are even considering the possibility of selling the team, but they missed an opportunity to set the record straight when they chose not to comment while Genessy was preparing his story.

The pot has officially been stirred and it will be interesting to see how the court of public opinion rules in the next few days. My take: the Jazz aren’t for sale and the Millers are committed to fielding a competitive team, but a long lockout is far worse for the Jazz than the specifics of any deal. Nothing could be more damaging than abandonment by the fans.

[Editor's Note: It appears the Tribune has removed the "All Hope Is Lost" story, for reasons only they know. It's a Thanksgiving miracle for Ross Siler!]