Comments on: Reconstructive Jazz http://saltcityhoops.com/reconstructive-jazz/ The ESPN TrueHoop Utah Jazz Site Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:05:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0 By: Brian http://saltcityhoops.com/reconstructive-jazz/#comment-689 Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:40:13 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3780#comment-689 Just a thought – Mychal, You say your’re showing us the “light at the end of the tunnel”? I look at the age distribution shown and argue it takes AGE not YOUTH to win a championship. Look at your top three teams: Lakers, Mavs, Spurs. Who were the three best teams in the Western Conference this year? Hmm. And the next three, Denver, Portland, Thunder. Oh yeah, the next three best teams in the Conference (arguably in any given order).

I would contend that age and experience gives you a chamionship a la the last four NBA Champions (including the Celtics). The problem I see with your train of thought is the fact that when the Lakers and Spurs have gotten up there in average age, they turn around around and bring a few youngsters in to replace the ancients and still contend and even win championships with the new mix (time will tell what happens to the Mavs). The Thunder look promising, but they still lack. I’m sorry but as for the Jazz, until we can get a better mix of experience and youth (focusing on experience) we will be looking up. Love Jefferson but he’s not the experience we’re looking for. And what well experienced, top player free agent has ever come to us? We needed to groom a Deron Williams et others to try and acheive stardom again. I just don’t see it any time in the near – medium future. Not with who we currently have.

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By: Mike http://saltcityhoops.com/reconstructive-jazz/#comment-688 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:49:14 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3780#comment-688 ^^
“The Jazz if they cut salary now will be in a great position to play the OKC role and use their cap space to save teams from luxury taxes and be able to accrue some good assets: draft picks & players.”

If we can get far below the cap, let alone under it, in the next 2-3 years I will be impressed.

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By: JT http://saltcityhoops.com/reconstructive-jazz/#comment-687 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:52:51 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3780#comment-687 To Mike and Dave. I don’t think he means that the Jazz necessarily need to get under the cap for next season. It should be easier with Okur off the books for the next off-season though.

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By: BillM http://saltcityhoops.com/reconstructive-jazz/#comment-686 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 00:19:47 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3780#comment-686 I believe the 2012 Golden State pick is top 7 protected, not top 8.

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By: BillM http://saltcityhoops.com/reconstructive-jazz/#comment-685 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:43:38 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3780#comment-685 I wonder if the Millers have $8 mil to buyout Bell & Memo at 50% and get ‘em off the books. Neither has any trade (never mind playing) value whatsoever at this point. I like ‘em both on a personal level but Father Time has spoken.

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By: BillM http://saltcityhoops.com/reconstructive-jazz/#comment-684 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:36:21 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3780#comment-684 Nice piece. Jazz must go young and not try to limp into the 8 seed with the Elson’s & Bell’s of the world. Last year’s decisions were an understandable gamble, but no more.

Al, Harris & Sap are all above-average players with reasonable contracts, so they’re fine as is unless a great trade is out there. CJ’s option is reasonable, so give him one last final chance.

Fes can probably be re-signed dirt cheap; you can’t coach size, he’s still very young, and he’ll prolly do better under Corbin than ol’ No Rings. Watson is fine as a backup vet on year to year minimums, heart Ronnie P but he’s not an NBA player. Offer AK something no more than 4-5 a year for no more than 2-3 years.

Bell is just a complete disaster, both he and and the noble but finished Memo need to be offered 50% buyouts which they might take fearing the lockout will kill all of next season. No more grumbling vets.

But everything needs to be focused on developing Favors, Hayward & the lotto picks, forget the playoffs for a year or two more. I’d be over the moon if we snuck off with Biyambo & Burks from where we are now; both have shown great flashes, are very young and have huge upsides.

Yes, try to turn Evans into an effective 10-20mpg mismatch weapon, and see what Al, Sap & Harris can do under Corbin’s new system. But it’s all about #3 & #9 learning together with #6 & #12 for now.

Nit: Harden was actually picked 3rd in ’09, how soon we forget the immortal Hasheem Thabeet.

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By: nickyjam http://saltcityhoops.com/reconstructive-jazz/#comment-683 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:00:02 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3780#comment-683 Nice piece. Everyone talks about OKC and what a great job they did and how the Jazz need to emulate their last few years. Well, the reality is, they got extremely lucky pulling Kevin Durrant out of the draft. They did do a nice job, and I think Sam Presti is one of the best GMs in the league, I just hope we don’t think we failed if we can’t replicate what OKC did, or if it takes us longer to do so. I give them credit for hitting on draft picks like Russell Westbrook, Jeff Green, and James Harden, but they rebuilt as well as they did because they got Durrant after Portland choked away the #1 pick. I hope the Jazz look to their example, but I also hope Jazz fans realize that it’s not always that easy.

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By: Dave http://saltcityhoops.com/reconstructive-jazz/#comment-682 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:01:57 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3780#comment-682 I agree with this. I love these articles, so well thought out and really insightful, even for the most die-hard; up-to-date; and well-read fans. But we will stuggle will salary, particularly if we throw in AK’s contract for next year, as I fully expect him to be re-signed for $3-5m, along with Earl and perhaps CJ. First instinct is to try and dump Okur’s contract, and this will have to be done almost certainly if we wish to be ‘way-below’ the cap. Any ideas?

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By: Mike http://saltcityhoops.com/reconstructive-jazz/#comment-681 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:57:58 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3780#comment-681 I like the article, and agree. But how to you suggest the Jazz get far below the salary cap? The Jazz have 52 mil in salary next year, and that is not including resigning anybody or picking up CJ’s option (which I figure you would want them to do considering the whole get/stay young idea). I believe the salary cap is 58 mil this year but it should get much lower next year with the owners get their way in the CBA.

Lets say we pick up the option on CJ for 3.7 mil and resign Earl for around the same contract at 1.3. That puts us at roughly 57 mil. Add two lottery pick rookie contracts at average about 2.25 mil a piece than we are at 61.5. I just don’t see the Jazz being able to get under the cap even if they can pull of a miracle and dump Okur’s 11 mil contract without giving up too much or taking much salary back.

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By: JT http://saltcityhoops.com/reconstructive-jazz/#comment-680 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:34:36 +0000 http://www.saltcityhoops.com/?p=3780#comment-680 Excellent article. Hopefully KOC, the Millers, and the coaching staff are all on the same page and realize that next year needs to be used for development.

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